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Academy fry cart?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:55 am
by rack04
Has anyone used this fry cart for homebrewing? I'm wondering if it will hold a couple of keggles.

http://www.academy.com/webapp/wcs/store ... er&Ntk=All

Re: Academy fry cart?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:05 am
by BigWally
I have seen several people using those. Bill Lawrence has one very similar that he had modified with another tier to hold his hot liquor tank.

Re: Academy fry cart?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:12 am
by Bill Lawrence
It certainly will, I have brewed countless batches of bad beer on mine. I however had my modified and built a tower between the burners so I could use gravity to drain my Gott cooler mash tun (which is famous by the way). The modifications did not modify the weight the cart can bear however so if you use it "stock" I think you will be well pleased. Although not as "sexy" as some of the store bought rigs I have seen, from a price/utility standpoint, I think my system is beautiful. By the way, they sometimes put that item on sale although I suspect just before the holidays might not be the best time to purchase. Of course, you can also use it as a turkey frier should you be into that sort of thing. :D

Re: Academy fry cart?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:17 am
by rack04
Bill Lawrence wrote:It certainly will, I have brewed countless batches of bad beer on mine. I however had my modified and built a tower between the burners so I could use gravity to drain my Gott cooler mash tun (which is famous by the way). The modifications did not modify the weight the cart can bear however so if you use it "stock" I think you will be well pleased. Although not as "sexy" as some of the store bought rigs I have seen, from a price/utility standpoint, I think my system is beautiful. By the way, they sometimes put that item on sale although I suspect just before the holidays might not be the best time to purchase. Of course, you can also use it as a turkey frier should you be into that sort of thing. :D
Got any pics? Do you pump from the HLT to mash tun? How do the wheels hold up to the weight of two full kegs?

Re: Academy fry cart?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:34 am
by Bill Lawrence
I don't have any pictures but yes, I pump hot water up into the mashtun (and I batch sparge incidentally). I mounted my March pump between the burners just below the table level, it works out just fine (some don't like the way I hooked up the electricity but you know, sometimes you just need to live dangerously). I have never had any problems what so ever with the wheels or anything else related to the cart, one of the better purchases I have made I must say (I bet I have been using it for 7 to 8 years). The only problem with a system like this is that it is a pain to take to a brewday but then I never considered brewing a spectator sport anyhow.

Re: Academy fry cart?

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:09 pm
by mtodd
Exact same cart that I use as well. Snagged mine at Academy in Lewisville 8 or 9 yrs ago on sale for $99 or so. It was a sight seeing my trying to get it home in a 1999 Ford Escort ZX2. I had to lay the passenger seat all the way back and squeeze it in there and it had me all pushed up against the driver's side door. :lol:

Re: Academy fry cart?

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:33 pm
by rack04
I think I'll monitor the price for a little while and hopefully it will go on sale. How are the burners? Can they easily be swapped out with something like a banjo burner? My plan would be to fill the hlt from a filtered garden hose, heat to strike temp, gravity drain into cooler mash tun, drain runnings into a fermenter, pour into brew kettle, and then gravity drain from brew kettle into fermenter. This way the only heavy lifting I'll have to do is transferring wort from the mash tun to the brew kettle.

Re: Academy fry cart?

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:56 am
by groovyslick
I use one.. I like it but I got it on sale for $89. the dislikes are the cheapo wheels and I can see relpacing the burners at somepoint. but structurally it works great for keggles.

Re: Academy fry cart?

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:19 am
by rack04
How are the wheels attached? Wonder if they are easily upgradeable.

Re: Academy fry cart?

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:58 pm
by mtodd
Mine still has the original wheels and burners and that is after a 5 or 6 yr layoff from brewing and being stored outside part of the time over the years. The burners have a nut and bolt on the bottom that hold them on. The wheels are just bolted on the angle iron....should be easy to remove and put something else on but you would have to extend the legs on the opposite end if you put on larger wheels because then the unit would not be level.

Re: Academy fry cart?

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:57 am
by Bill Lawrence
Well, what I did was have a tower built between the burners that my mashtun sits on. I have a keg on one burner that is my hot liquor tank and the other keg is my boil kettle. What I do is heat water up, mash then once I have converted, pump hot water up to the mash tun to sparge. I also use my pump to recirulate then I just gravity drain the wort from the mashtun right into my boil kettle. When the boil is done, I pump the hot wort through my wort chiller and into my fermenter, I have done it so many times I don't even think about it any more. The only thing I can't do is add heat directly to my mashtun but I get around that by doing decoctions or boiling water infusions if I want to heat things up. I never have to lift alot of liquid, you really don't want to design your system such that you ever have to lift hot wort, besides the risk of getting scalded, your back will thank you for it. I personally think batch sparging is the way to go, it's easy, you don't loose much in the way of extraction, and it allows you to keep the ph where you want it to avoid extracting tannins and ruining your beer. Oh yeah, I use the stock burners, they work just fine. Really once you get your processes down it's more about timing, in my system it takes 30 minutes to take 3/4 of a keg full of water from ground water temperature to boiling. If you add those high output burners, you might get into issues with exess heat.

Re: Academy fry cart?

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:13 pm
by rack04
Decided to pick one up with some Christmas spending cash.

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Hopefully I'll have a chance to test it out this weekend.

You'll notice that the HLT doesn't have any fittings installed. That's because I haven't bought them yet but I know of a good place to buy them. :) I think I'm going to install a whirlpool return on the BK and a drain valve, sight glass, and thermometer on the HLT.

Re: Academy fry cart?

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 7:56 am
by MixnMatchBrew
Looks good and very usable.

Re: Academy fry cart?

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:32 pm
by rack04
Any tips on how to mount pump on this from someone who has one?

Re: Academy fry cart?

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:54 am
by Bill Lawrence
Well what I did is mount the pump in the middle, between the burners. If you are using a March pump, it needs to be below the level of the liquid since those things are not self priming. Depending on how you want to deal with the electricity I guess you could also mount the pump on one of the legs. Incidentally, bear in mind that when the burners are running, things get hot and you could easily melt the wires if you are not just a bit careful (been there, done that, got the t-shirt). :D